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April 21, 2012 / Vanilla Chocolate

Why are Indians so rude?


With whatever limited exposure I have had to different cultures, societies and people, I have often observed that people from India come across as rude. I have often wondered why are Indians so rude?.

As anyone else might have observed it, be it air-ports, bus stations, malls,  anywhere, I have seen Indian people rushing out of queue, being pushy in queue, not following traffic rules,  being impolite and rude in giving way etc.

I was traveling aboard a tourist bus with a contingent that consisted mostly of Indians and Chinese people. I observed that both people had similar rudeness in behavior when it came to things like forming queues,  forming groups, giving way etc. I wondered, what was common between the Chinese and the Indians. Then, it struck me, what seems like ignorance to etiquette on the surface might be something deeper and more logical. Probably, because such people are grew up in heavily populated parts of the world, they have been conditioned to use what Darwin termed as -“Survival of the Fittest” mentality, which means that when they are in a crowded place they want to be the first ones to take way else their primitive brain, what scientists termed as the Amygdala makes them sub-consciously believe they are in danger. From experience they might have learned that if they do not push themselves ahead of the rest, they are left far behind.

It is not so much about these people or cultures then, it is about how nature has played out its hand in insuring our survival, it makes us adapt to whatever conditions we are put in. Had the same people been brought up in less crowded places they would have had more polite habits, had the people with polite habits been brought up in crowded places, they might have been different to how they are. Maybe, now we could all look at such people with more forgiving eyes when we see them being “rude“.

Indians might not have the niceties of wishing you “good morning” and say “Thank you” and “Please” ever so often. This might also have to do with the fact that with so many people around, you would not really want to wish everyone that you see, unless you want to run your throat dry.

I mentioned Indians being rude in this post; however I(Chocolate) am an Indian myself and while I was traveling through America came across several rude Americans. Some of the experiences from my trip then are here.

If you agree with me, please comment and let us know what you think. If you disagree, maybe we could enjoy adding another twist to the argument. Please comment!

CHOCOLATE.

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  1. Susie Q / Aug 15 2012 8:57 am

    People from India ARE very rude and materialistic . I work with a Indian woman and she is not too bright ….others complain all the time about how she is a total screw up but she never takes any responsibility for her mistakes . Several times I have had to call her and she always hangs up on me…doesn’t let me finish speaking! I don’t know what her problem is but apparently they are ALL rude! Must be a culture thing! She is a greedy , money hungry Biotch always bragging about her jewelry and how much she paid for stuff. Makes me wish India would be swallowed up in a sandstorm! Oh, and they smell….bad!

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Sep 3 2012 11:43 pm

      Well I kind of get it that the Indian woman at your work might be a “total screw up” and all the bad stuff that you say she is, but have you ever thought if it is more because of how she is as an individual than because of the fact that she is an Indian ? I am sure there must be many people from other races as well who might behave similarly! Any thoughts ?

      • Vanilla Chocolate / Sep 3 2012 11:53 pm

        On another thought on your comment, I think that possibly the woman or say Indians (if you feel all of them do it) might talk about money a little more because they spend a good part of their lives doing work that they are paid peanuts compared to the developed world. When they have spent a good part of their lives trying to meet basic needs and necessary things they might value money somewhat more than some of their western counterparts.

    • Maria / Jun 10 2013 1:06 pm

      Yes i agree indian are rude. I have an Indian neighbour. He is greedy, rude and has a big mouth. He has sons and they loved playing loud Bollywood dance till 1 am in the morning. The guy talked to me like i am a servant who comes from a low class. Later, I thought because i am a lady so he saw me lower than him. What a bastard!
      He talked differently to me and husband. He appears to be more slightly polite towards a guy.
      He always parks in front of my house too! Ohhhh what an annoying arse.. My neighbour from hell! Why can’t I have a normal nice neighbour?

      • Danisha / Aug 11 2013 3:38 pm

        Indian men are mostly rude. Mainly, it is because of the lack of respect toward women in their culture, and it is probably the caste system .Yesterday, some Indian man bugged me at the gym. I was using a static bike for just 40 mins and he preached me not to use the bike forever,,well, It was just a 40 min riding. I was so upset because I never did something like that to other people at the gym. I didn’t want to get in trouble with some random Indian man so I just left. He was super rude and such an embarrassment.I hope your neigbour won’t bother you again! I am still upset though:(:(

    • Faisal / Oct 30 2013 9:49 am

      Haha ure name sounds chinky why don’t you be a little less racist n try open your eyes…oh sorry forgot U can’t LOL n you chinkies stink of fish :)

      • hate indian / Mar 2 2014 7:27 am

        Faisal, you are a piece of dirt, useless piece of poop, people like you should disappear in the air, there is no room for you to spread your ill minded racist comment, get real you know you are a piece of dirt,don’t you.

      • Rodge / May 9 2014 10:12 am

        There goes a classic example!

  2. Cash / Aug 26 2012 8:58 am

    Let’s get on point. After spending some time at Niagara, white people were out numbered 200 to one. People from India are the rudest, ignorant, sneakiest people I’ve ever come in contact with. They just plain smell like pigs. The Body Oder was horrendous. I wanted to through them oner the falls. Cutting the line is a slap in the face. It’s like saying “Get the f___ out of my way. I’m a 340 lb 6’4 man, I don’t get out of the way for any one except children and handycapped. I had to take a man by the back of the head and though him in the back of the line because he though he would sneak under my wife’s arm. Just from this experience, I hate people from India. Stereo typing, well I spent 2 days with 4000 India people and not one had any respect for any one. Ignorant little bastards. If you ask me, they are the cursed race. Is it me or do they all seem a little retarded, slow and stupid. Educated, vocabulary and book smart is possible even to a mentally challenged person but they lack common sence and fail to grasp reality. Before they come to good old USA, they need to have a good old American ass wooping. They need to be taught decentcy is more important then value and kindness will get you further then ignorance. If your an Indian reading this understand this, cut in line again and I will beat you down like a dog. Touch my wife in line and I’ll break your neck. Push my kids out of the way and I’ll end you life. I don’t disrespect you or your family, don’t do it to mine or it will be your last.

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Sep 3 2012 11:49 pm

      At places like the Niagara falls with a lot of crowd around it can get really annoying at times yes. Even in some places in India it might get very crowded and annoying. Did you not think after reading the article that all these Indian people who cut lines etc. do it because they are used to it from back home? I mention in my post that it could probably be due to the fact that over time they are conditioned to do some of the things that they do. I do not agree with you that doing that makes them a cursed race. I am pretty sure that they do not mean to disrespect your family or mean harm, they might just be used to look for the shortest possible path in terms of distance and time when they are stuck up in a crowded place.

      • dontworry / Apr 5 2013 2:12 pm

        “they might just be used to look for the shortest possible path in terms of distance and time when they are stuck up in a crowded place”
        well ingeneered euphemism :)
        in civilised society we call it just “cheating”

      • Vanilla Chocolate / Apr 5 2013 2:54 pm

        For the comment that says “in civilized society its called cheating – Yeah i guess we could call it cheating ;) but that seems like a shallow approach to try and understand the reasons of a problem and what causes it.

      • discardedbylife / Aug 24 2014 11:14 pm

        Only Indians support Indians. Think about that.

    • H / Nov 16 2012 10:13 am

      It’s a shame you have to “hate” an entire race of people based on one experience. One word from your rant caught my eye, “Ignorant”.

    • A / Dec 12 2012 10:49 am

      from now on i am just gonna cut every 340 lb white american in a line and make sure i push his wife and knock the kids out too. and you wont be able to do shit. i really hope i run into you some day. fucking uneducated piece of shit

      • veera / Mar 31 2013 8:31 am

        lol,i totally get ur irritation and sorry about all that happened to you,being indian it is after visiting US for first time I realized people are really well mannered and nice there(except few exceptions anyway).But i think it is just cultural thing.Most of the indians are not taught to respect others these days though it is sad I dont see it changing in coming years.But recent boom in IT has given opportunity to indians to explore other parts of world and know other cultures too.I hope atleast that popuation remains good!

      • indian / Apr 27 2013 1:28 am

        340lb white American hahahahaha

    • lejepson / Feb 21 2013 11:09 pm

      There is no excuse for being rude no matter what country you are in. It’s like the old “german nazi’s”. They thought they were gods gift and everybody else was inferior. The East Indians seem to want to exude that fact, and they are the visitors in our country.
      I had a teller at Suntrust holler over at me 3 lines over with several people in each line that “how is your loan going – Larry” (she met me once and she is using my name in familiar fashion and raising voice), and shouting what should be discreet information. Guess Suntrust has to put up with it because when I told the manager about this personal faux pas she apologized without any real meaning.

      This is not out of the orinary behavior for East Indian, Pakistan, or anybody from that area – they are just rude people!

      • Faisal / Oct 30 2013 10:06 am

        Think you’ll find your wrong mate, it’s only rich bastard Indians who are like this, poor working class Indians aren’t arrogant, but you don’t get them in America like you get them in Britain because America wanted professionals from India to immigrate not factory workers like Britain wanted

    • nana / Aug 4 2013 5:27 am

      clearly, you are being rascist. you are just looking at ONE PERSON! please, you need to learn that India is a highly populated country where people are competitive. Not all indians are rude. if you give them respect, they will give it back to you. they just dont have the same culture. and you need to understand that you are focusing on the negative things about indians. instead of looking at how hard they work, you are looking at ONE PERSONS behavior and cursing the race…please, grow up and imagine how you would feel if i said your race was cursed because ONE PERSON from your race cut me! rascist people are just never going to welcome people.

    • Faisal / Oct 30 2013 9:59 am

      I’d like to see you try mate, not all us Indians are cowardly Hindu dogs. Us Muslims aren’t afraid of no one. My dad was in the British armed forces, I’ve done boxing since I was a little kid, is f**k u up without even trying mate, don’t care I’d your a 300lb walrus, I’m 220lb 6ft 1 n would kick f**k outta u. Arrogant yank b*****d ure lucky all then Indians in your country are soft middle class Hindu types. Try starting on a working class Indian like me you’ll get ure arse handed to u

      • Ryan / Jan 4 2014 12:25 am

        Way to support your country by calling all Hindu’s cowardly dogs! And then to go on and say that you want to fight this guy because your this “big”. I’m from Canada – known to many as the nicest country in the world. And guess what – everyone I know has a bad experience with someone from India. You people live in a much different world than the west. And this is often the excuse for your behaviour. Your culture is different – ok – so adapt or move back. Western culture will never back your insane social or religious norms. Religion and government are separate, women have equal rights. We don’t have massive slums and probably the largest poverty gap in the world. Indians come from a country which is basically 3rd world – so no one taught you manners? What about all the other immigrants that come here? I’ve met Thai, Chinese, French, African – you name it, Canada has it. Most immigrants are impoverished and had to fight real hard just like Indian’s to get to the west and better life. And I think that is great but don’t come to our country observe all your customs and no of ours and expect respect. Chinese people are right beside you and not much further away is Japan. These two cultures have rich deep history and specific societal and social norms yet they know when your in another country you must do as they do. Have Indians never heard of the classic expression; “When in Rome do as the Romans do.”

        If I ever go to Japan, I’ll be happy to bow, take off my shoes and sit down for an authentic Japanese dinner. It seems to me like Indians develop some inflated ego when they leave India – this could be because of money or because they were instilled with some racial superiority paradigm. It doesn’t really matter why because an excuse does not make any of it right. I honestly don’t think this is a racial issue at all. If a mexican or an american person were to grow up in India under the same conditions they would probably come out as some greedy self entitled prick. However as soon as they set foot on their ethnic country (America lets say) people there would look at them like Americans. And I can tell you that you would get a collective ass whooping from all of them. It doesn’t happen right now because you look like a stereotypical Indian and people actually give you guys sooo much leeway because we know your foreign. We do this for all foreigners but my patience has run out after my third run in with a rude, arrogrant, inappropriate doctor.

        I was in the hospital for a severe anxiety attack because and Indian doctor would not give me my meds – I could have died and a doctor at the Hospital told me that he gets like 10 a week from my Doctor Balsdeep Deepa Takhar. He even suggests to all his patients to complain since he cannot. I then spoke with another doctor (on-call psychiatrist). He was Indian which worried be right away. He came in very crass asking me questions I had already answered to about 4 other people. I told about my condition etc, his bedside manner was very deadpan – Indians don’t seem to know what sympathy is. He asked about my family I told him my father died about 9-10 months ago from cancer. Instead of continuing to ask me health related questions he began to grill me about my fathers death date which I couldn’t recall with absolute accuracy. I was sleep deprived and going though extreme panic attacks – I came there in an ambulance that’s how serious it was. So I told him I wasn’t sure but that it was during the late summer. He then asked well who would know? I said my mom would. He asked for her number but she had just moved so I didn’t know it. He then asked for my room mates phone number asking if she would remember, I told him probably not (why would they remember – not their dad) but gave him her number anyway. He was judging me because I couldn’t remember. This was extremely aggravating especially for someone in my condition. There was absolutely no reason for this line of questioning other than his own sick twisted sense of curiosity. The only reason why I was in the hospital was because my “doctor” also Indian (big surprise) refused to give me my medication. In short he is an asshole so was the other one and my family physican was indian while I was growing up. When my father got really ill and saw this shithead Doctor called Jagdish Desai ( Srry Indian names are the dumbest) he put my Dad on a yogurt diet. A month later my dad’s colon exploded and he was rushed to the hospital. Desai ran no tests or anything to determine what was really wrong with my Dad. He died 6 years later. Desai retired – end of sad story. 3 asshole indians, 2 male, 1 female. I will never ever let my self or someone I love be looked after by an Indian again. I’d sooner go out to the reservation and have the North American Indians ( the nice one) do a rain dance.

        The sad truth is, is that the predominantly white countries are the wealthiest and by no surprise that’s where everyone wants to go. Australia, Canada, America, Western Europe hell even Japan. There really isn’t excuse for why a country of 1 Billion people can’t improve their GDP other the fact of your huge poverty and scholastic gaps. Canada has 30 million approx. people, Indian has about 1 billion yet there GDP per capita is horrible. Don’t get me wrong, India has money but only a select few have it, like the rich and big government. India ranks 133 for GDP per capita, this is an average. The average North American makes about 35,000-50,000/year. The average Indian makes 2,000-5,000/year (USD/ID). India is a terribly poor country with little no social responsibility. It is literally a dog eat dog world, sometimes its a human eat dog world too lol.

        My message to any Indian people reading this is simple. Assimilate or extricate – your in the west then fucking act like it. Don’t like our customs or all the money or all the social responsibility for the poor here or the total religious freedom or gender equality? Then go BACK to India – we don’t need any more quasi-religious self serving douche bags then we already have. And just food for thought but I’m guessing most Indian’s have no clue how Canadian law works. So yeah get in a fight with a Canadian or an American, you don’t know the culture or how things work here – you will find your self in jail quick or a one-way ticket to mumbai. Next Indian person that gives me any fucking lip is gunna get it right back and I double slum-dog dare you to take a swing. FYI it’s fucking rude for you to speak your native tongues loudly in front of other people. if what you’re saying is so fucking secret then whisper it in your friends ear – english, hindi or whatever – this applies to anyone and everyone. I’m also done tipping Indians just because they’re not even truly thank-full. They want to drive around in their cabs pretending it’s India, listening to their screechy shitty music, fine I’ll give you no tip just like all the poor people in India would. How about that for equality?

        PS most indian’s are tiny little fucks, I have no idea about Hindu’s being weaker but you’re all either anorexic or bald middle aged and fat (surely from a vegetarian diet). The scariest thing about an Indian person is the harsh way they talk. Fighting wise Indian’s are very low on my scale, Thai, Chinese, Japanese – at least they know how to fight. Even a Russian is spookier. All I think of when I say the word Indian is unibrows and curry neither of which strike fear. Stop trying to defend your impetuous and ignorant ways because if you’re pissing off Canadian’s (im not the only one) then surely YOU are doing something wrong – fix it or fuck off. Amen!

    • indian / Aug 22 2014 4:59 pm

      Motherfucker if u don’t like indians then don’t talk to them.. what u think indians r fool..
      Don’t even dare to think of beating an indian

    • Cash The Doosh / Aug 30 2014 11:40 pm

      Hey Cash, I’m 6’0″ and 220 pounds. How about I end your life if you don’t get out of MY way. You have a typical bully mentality and need your ass handed to you. BTW I’m not Indian, I just have a problem with idiots like you who like to push around and intimidate anyone that’s smaller. I’m smaller than you, but I assure you I’d put you on your ass before you even had a chance to raise your fat ham fist. Also, good job on starting a conversation with all your tough guy threats and posturing, but not coming back to answer the replies. You’re a POS.

  3. Lyn / Sep 30 2012 8:20 pm

    Wow, you seem to attract interesting readers, who only look for bashing a part of humanity. Open-minded individuals, indeed;)

    I am not sure if I would call Indians particulary rude. Of course, there are situations (like taking the train in Mumbai) which can be compared to war scenarios where rudeness prevails. But then, the train stops for exactly 10 seconds, there are 20 people in your compartment wanting to get off, 20 outside wanting to get in – and only one door.. Be assured I shove and I push to get out. And I am not Indian but German.

    At least when it comes to interactions with people from different strata the “rudeness” stems from the hierarchical order which is prevalent in India. A person who is seen as a servant or “lower class”
    won´t be respected as equal and therefore doesn´t deserve politeness. Within the US equality is an important value and therefore politeness is a mandatory factor in any interaction.

    Having said that, being rude or being polite is only a cultural concept. What “we” find normal and polite – like building a queque – might not mean anything to people from other cultures. While things which are normal to us, are impolite in other cultures. For example saying “no” when asked for the way but not knowing the answer is impolite in India therefore the person asked rather gives you false information. For a foreigner this might be annoying but it is a cultural standard one has to get used to.

    Greetings!

    By the way, the Amygdala is only a PART of the brain stem, sometimes termed the reptile brain since, contrary to the Neo Cortex (which developed later within the human development) – as you pointed out right – it controls the survival instincts…

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Oct 2 2012 5:34 pm

      I think as long as people are open to discussing things out and are at-least ready to take a chance to let go of irrational prejudices, I welcome them.
      You’ve made some very interesting points. I have noticed it myself that a lot of Indians while pushing their way through queues and as such don’t even seem to realize that they are being rude. It’s very possible that they just don’t perceive it as something rude. This idea adds a whole another dimension to the topic, where rudeness or politeness might just be matter of different cultures. Something rude in one culture might be completely normal or polite in another culture.
      Different treatment being vet out to people who from different strata of society is something that has been long present in Indian culture.
      Another interesting point to note is that I have noticed Indian people at work (I work in an MNC) being more polite to foreigners than they are to their compatriots. The change in their tone and manner in which they interact is very different.

  4. Vihang / Oct 6 2012 3:04 pm

    Nice to see that there are still open minded people around…I see a lot of people think Indians are rude. But that is not the case. We grew up in a place where there are less resources and more people to cater, maybe that is one reason they are like that. But rest assured all Indians are not like that. And I’ve also Lived in Sydney, Australia and I had my fair share of rude experience with people of that country. But that does not make me think that Australians are rude…

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Oct 6 2012 10:23 pm

      @Vihang – You are right, how a person behaves would generally always boil down to how an individual is, rather than where they belong to. I think Lyn made an interesting comment that many times people might not even be aware that a certain thing they are used to doing is rude in other culture.
      What were some of your rude experiences in Australia that you had ?

    • Lyn / Oct 8 2012 7:07 pm

      When it comes to building queques I also think that the concept of personal space plays a role.

      Edward T. Hall distinguishes between 3 spaces (intimate, social/consultative, public) and argues that these spaces vary accoding to cultures. Meaning that for example U.S. Americans need more space for themselves to be comfortable, while Indians are used to and more comfortable when being closer to other people. Therefore it isn´t a sign of being “rude” but simply the attempt to be comfortable when Indians are looking for physical proximity.

      An example for that are the Super Markets in India. While I belong to a culture where body contact isn´t wished for and people keep physical distance, going to a Super Market in India is just awfully dreadful for me: the ailes are too small, there are too many people and it is too loud. Funnily I read an article some month back that the restricted space isn´t due to property prices but to satisfy the Indian customers who want to “be close to others” and appreciate when the “purchase experience reminds of a family outing”.

      @Vihang
      The resource approach you used is something to think about!

      You are right concerning generalizations.
      When people don´t have the chances or means or will to actually get to know people from other cultures they only have those one or two people they met at work (or people on TV). And if these two weren´t liked, people tend to generalize. That makes intercultural understanding quite difficult.

      • Vanilla Chocolate / Oct 14 2012 10:16 pm

        The topic of personal space is an interesting one! I have a colleague who got back to India after spending 6 months working in the US. He made a remark that people in the US are conscious of their personal space and he told us about incidents where if he went and stood too close to some of the people, they would seem uncomfortable and take a step back. Edward T. Hal might very well be right in his theory.

        However, I do not think i would apply the physical proximity argument to justify as to why Indians might be pushy through queues and be bad at giving way. I think that just stems out of having that “rush signal” on in their heads!

      • Lyn / Nov 19 2012 6:28 am

        Funny thing is that then the people who prefer literally closer relationships would take a step forward to be comfortable again. The partner of conversation would take one back and so forth…

        The fact that Indians are “bad at giving way” is connected to their fear to lose face. There are many cultures in which saying “no” isn´t culturally accepted, therefore people either give vague answers or make things up. Again, people from other cultures might find that rude but it is the exact opposite. Long enough in the culture one learns the subtle nuances in language and how to read body language.

  5. Sam / Oct 14 2012 6:56 am

    I have had mostly bad experiences with people from India, and Pakistan. One experience will reduce my lifespan because of something which 2 immigrants from India did to me. After the event which I will never forget happened I was exposed to Indians and Pakistani’s (originally Indians within the last 100 years) My experiences afterwards were constantly bad, so even though I don’t believe in racism I felt protective around them since I have had almost all bad experiences with them. My only experiences which weren’t bad were 5 people I conversed with whose ancestries were from either of those countries. Three of the people were first generation immigrants to the USA from India all were men 2 were middle aged, 1 was in his 20’s. The other 2 were a woman in her mid to late 20’s of 100% Indian descent born in the USA, and a first generation Pakistani immigrant in his late 20’s. All positive experiences happened different times in different cities. I have had at least 700 negative experiences with Indians and Pakistanis. However although many of my bad experiences were the result of South Asians, I have also had bad experiences with blacks from the USA, Caribbean, Africa, as well as black Arabs from Asia, not to mention whites of various nationalities of European, Orientals from many countries except for Japan or Indonesia, both Ashkenazi and Ethiopian Jews, Levant Arabs, and few Latino people so I cannot blame Indians or stereotype them. However, although I realize everyone is different I have become less trusting to Indians as recently a week and a half ago I began to regain trust for them and was back stabbed (metaphorically). As far as the rudeness and being cheap I have experienced this with them at a higher percentage than many other races, although it occurred less often with more exposure it has happened with various other races so I cannot point the finger. If I were to give all of them who are rude or snakelike an excuse I would be ignorant. So I cannot lie and say this is a result of being raised in overcrowded environment’s, or that they do not mean to act rude and are innocent when they disrespect me with verbal insults, or interrupting me before I can begin speaking. I have forgave all who have done wrong to me and realize that although I often trust others too quickly I should realize most people are self centered and although honest, respectful, affectionate people exist they are often far outnumbered by the unethical. So even though much evil exists in the South Asian society this doesn’t limit it to them. Also the creator of the Tariq Foundation http://tkf.org/ was South Asian and he must have good intentions. His son was murdered in a random gang initiation killing and he forgave the murderer, instead of seeking revenge. This is something I would find very difficult and cannot imagine if someone were to kill my offspring whether it be son or daughter. After learning about this foundation it helped me to remember the importance of forgiveness and think about how malice destroys the avenger.

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Oct 14 2012 10:08 pm

      Sam – All that you have said is quite touching. Even through my post or my comments I do not mean to excuse “snakelike” behavior. Something that is out-rightly unethical and inhumane is outright wrong. Although, I could go on to say that even some of the behavioral aspects like back-stabbing and cutting you short while you are speaking etc. might have some cultural roots. I personally believe that the Indian culture at times can be hypocritical. In a joint-family system you might come across elders- aunts and uncles who are controlling and judgmental of things that are going on in your own personal life. I do not know too much about such behaviors that might be prevalent in other cultures as well but I can say that being an Indian myself, I too have thought that the Indian culture at times is hypocritical.

      It is not a matter of surprise then that corruption, unethical professional conduct etc. are great concerns for the south Asian countries. People in these countries might be de-sensitized to all such malice and accept it.

      In my view there is no excuse for out-right inhumane behavior that has malicious intentions behind it. However, if you would go on to tell us about some of the ill behaviors that you have come across
      from people from India/Indian origin, we might get to enlighten ourselves more on some of the things that are going wrong with respect to Indians and India and the ways in which people from India seem to be ruder than others.

      Thanks for being open and honest in your comment.
      Cheers, CHOCOLATE
      .

    • dontworry / Apr 5 2013 3:45 pm

      the real problem appears when you try to explain politely something obvious (for you), and you meet their immediate anger.

  6. Alexandra / Oct 16 2012 1:59 am

    Interesting post and comments, I just want to add one thing to this discussion.
    I think it’s difficult to say that people from a certain origin are more rude than others, I think that what is considered as rude differs a lot from country to country. So it’s difficult to generalise what’s rude in general, perhaps it’s better to connect it to where we ourselves come from. What I as a Swedish person considers rude is surely different from what Indian people or people from any other country thinks is rude.. I would say that it’s connected to our culture and it’s good to understand the customs of other countries before you go there so that you know what good etiquette is etc, perhaps if everyone was more considerate and understanding of eachother and other cultures we wouldn’t have as many culture chocks, but maybe that’s a dream world, hehe :) just some thoughts on the topic.. Nice blog! :)

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Oct 16 2012 5:07 am

      Thanks for commenting!

      I would agree that when it comes to judging if a behavior is rude we tend to connect it to where we ourselves come from. Funnily, after I had the chance to travel abroad to the US after so many years in India, my eyes were opened and I realized how kind and nicely people could behave. I had never seen such politeness and grace in public places anywhere in India and it was amazing to see such a thing. Then I got back to India and had swarms of people streaming past me, elbowing me, nudging me all in a haste to get onto the next train or the bus, and I would think to myself “Oh how rude is that, ouch , and again..!!” But then I realized that feeling that way was a waste of time, because the whole context had changed, all the people storming past me would never in a dream think that the little elbow nudge, the little foot stamp could be such a big deal. So I just had to tell myself that I was better off getting myself into the race to catch the next bus in time, rather than waste time bothering who it was who had just stamped by foot! :P :)

    • clare / May 15 2013 4:40 am

      Your answer is bang on the buck. It really added depth to the conversation

  7. Sam's mommy / Oct 26 2012 8:15 am

    I am of Indian origin and have lived in US for the pas 9 yrs. I don’t know if my behavior comes across as rude to other people. But I do acknowledge that Indians who have newly arrived from India seem rude to me. I hope that I didn’t behave in such a manner when I arrived in US. I have never broken a line in my life (in India or here). I hate it when people do. I was recently in an insect fair in central PA, where americans constantly tried to cut and push us out of line. They always pretended that they didn’t know that a line existed. So I think in a huge crowd people of any race would cut lines — survival of the fittest seems to kick in.
    However, I do not excuse the Indian rude behavior. I m constantly shocked by Indians who ask me how much I earn and how much I paid for our house and other personal questions. None of my close friends are rude and we all find Indian behavior at times rude. I cannot pinpoint what kind of Indians are rude. I have noticed that Indians who live in parts of US where there are huge population of asian indian people continue to live and behave as they would in India. They never bother to become westernized either in their thinking, etiquette or behavior. I have seen this among Indians of all classes and education in California and New Jersey. I have also noticed that Indians who live in areas where not many Indians are around and have lots of American friends are no different from Americans. For the person who said all Indians are rude because he saw 4000 indians behaving badly in Niagara, I have one thing to say. Just because some Americans go to other countries and make a fool of themselves — how would you like ALL american labeled a fool? I never cut lines and going to Niagara gives ME a headache and I am constantly aggravated by Indians and other foreigners trying to cut the line. And believe me they know it is wrong, they are trying to cut line because they know that Americans are too polite to kick them to the back of the line. I bet they will pretend not to understand English or that they just didn’t understand where the line began. I also wanted to tell you that when we went to Yellow stone there were americans cutting lines in lot of the places too. Europeans smoking around children and spitting on the road! All disgusting behavior according to me.

    • Faisal / Oct 30 2013 10:27 am

      Haha middle class coconut b***h it is EVERYTHING to do with class get snobby Hindus CONSTANTLY looking down on us as we are working class Muslims and you should see the looks I get from these people when they ask me my profession (I’m a welder) it is all to do with the stupid irrational piss drinking class based Hindu religion, why do you think only 10% of Indian Muslims get into university??

      • Robertson / Nov 8 2013 9:34 pm

        Friend, judging from your tone I would say that that’s not the main reason they look down on you. And being a welder is nothing to be too proud of if the welder is in India. Now, a German or Japanese welder would be a different story. Indian construction worker is something like Pygmy basketball player, just doesn’t command instant respect.

        Why are university classes only 10% Muslim? Hmmm, because that’s just as far as the government is willing to bend the rules to let Muslims in? It’s the most plausible solution, since Islam frowns on education, and then skims off as many talented boys as possible to have them sit in madrasas and memorize the Quran for years instead of getting modern educations; although that is not only a problem in India but everyplace else where the Sons of the Prophet are busy resisting all changes in the last 500-1000 years.

        And you’ve got a nerve calling Hindus irrational! When all the good parts of Islam are whatever Mohammed stole, without ever understanding, from the Jews and Christians he met, plus his hallucinations, plus his petty complaints and prejudices. I’m no Hindu but at least it is all original, extremely ancient, reasonably tolerant, and nobody has to worry about a Hindu sneaking around with a nail bomb to slaughter or mutilate women and children for the glory of God (the Compassionate, the Merciful).

  8. Elsa / Nov 18 2012 3:18 am

    My husband and I were at a movie theater last night. All through the advertisements the woman next to me talked to her friend and sent text messages as the glare of her cell phone light lit up the entire area. I thought it through and decided to wait until the movie officially started and if she continued, to say something. An announcement asking people to please turn off cell phones as a courtesy to other patrons, was issued on the screen. The movie started and she pulled the phone out of her purse to continue browsing all of her apps and send another message. My husband leaned across the front of me and said “if you want to text, I think you should leave the theater.” She had a look of shock and aghast on her face and turned to her friend to mutter something. I then said to her “what you are doing is very rude to those who have paid to watch a movie.” She gave me a piercing glare and again commiserated with her woman friend. She powered down her phone and then mumbled some sort of punishing remark that started with “For your information . . . ” and I could not understand the rest due to her rapid fire speech and thick accent. I faced the front of me, glued on the movie screen, not turning to answer her. She is Indian and I was in shock over the behavior.

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Nov 19 2012 5:25 am

      Whatever happened with you in the movie theater does seem very rude and I don’t think it is right. You need to integrate into the culture you are moving into and do the bare minimums.Here in India I have seen it happen in a lot of theaters where people do such kind of stuff. Probably, they aren’t just aware of what other individuals might expect. I have another post related to this by the title: Individuals come last.

  9. Dave / Nov 24 2012 10:27 pm

    I live in north India with my family of four. We’ve also lived in western China. It’s just a bit after 10 PM tonight, and the puja next door is so loud my little children can’t sleep. It’s pretty inconsiderate and rude, and pretty common. Hard to understand a religion that encourages you to disregard your neighbors. I agree with you – in general, many Indians very much live in a survival mindset, trying to maintain their place in the pile. That means cutting in lines, disregarding the needs of neighbors, milking every business transaction for as much as you can, and while you’re at it, cutting your own family out of their rightful inheritances if at all possible. OF COURSE, however, this kind of behavior does not apply to every individual or every family, but it does seem much more common than we’re used to in the west. We do have many strong friendships here, and are close to families that are full of absolutely lovely people. You avoid the rudeness as much as you can and cling to the rest.

    The behavior described by Susie in the first comment is not atypical, but these behaviors are mostly the result of training and upbringing (as are the horrible, dangerous driving, the cutting in line, etc.) – understanding this may help you to have grace for people from other cultures who rub you wrong.

    • A / Dec 12 2012 10:54 am

      wow a bit of puja distracted you while you were living in india. nigga you need help from a professional. or probably just some good old ass kicking

      • Dave / Feb 5 2013 11:37 pm

        Maybe you can help me understand why it needs to be so loud. This one registered 107 decibels at my bedroom window, about 70 feet from the tent. That’s loud, friend. Hearing loss loud. This is not some kind of culturally defensible behavior – the sound system itself precludes it from being an issue of religious heritage. It’s basically people choosing to be rude because they don’t give a damn about anyone but themselves. Probably friends of yours.

    • Faisal / Oct 30 2013 10:32 am

      As much as I hate Hindus u need to realize its India, that’s the main religion, if you don’t like it then f**k off back to yank land. Many thanks :)

      • Robertson / Nov 8 2013 9:08 pm

        From all I see, also having lived in India for a while, the majority of the people of the “main religion” think that you and your kind are all backward-thinking potential terrorists who have too many kids and dwell in filth, that Muslims raped the country for even longer than the British did, and that Faisal’s ancestors were either some kind of Uzbek or Turkish trash who came in with the Moguls, or even worse, low born Indian cowards who ran to Islam in order to gain an advantage over their Hindu brothers, to get a little power and money. What do I care? It’s not my fight. I’m only repeating what I’ve heard a hundred times from the locals. The fact is, chum, they all wish that you and everyone like you would, to use your phrase, “f**k off back to Pakistan” like you should have done in 1947. And if the government weren’t in the way, then I think that for a long time already there wouldn’t be one of you left alive inside the borders of Bharat.

        So maybe I can understand all of your loud hostility. Being part of a nation’s most despised and distrusted minority when your Only True Religion keeps telling you that you are superman and superior to the accursed men of all other religions, plus any and every woman ever born, may have caused some disturbance in your mind, an imbalance that makes even a tough, tough, macho man like you want to suck up to your own oppressors as you are doing here. Since, as so many Hindus have told me, friend, you’re not even a true Indian, just the offspring of Turks or traitors. But then I understand that the Pakistanis despise you all too! Not easy for you, Faisal.

        You say you are a welder. I’d like to change the subject and find out from you why India has the shoddiest, worst-looking buildings (even when new), the worst construction practices including steelwork, plumbing, and electrical, and hands down the dirtiest, most dangerous, and least efficient building sites anyone from the west or even Korea, Japan, China, can ever have seen since fifty or a hundred or two hundred years ago? I have stood and watched expensive condos going up, floor by floor, and felt as if in many ways Indian construction hasn’t moved forward since Mohenjo-Daro was built a few thousand years ago. Women with bricks or cement bags on their heads, men excavating with crude spades and straw baskets, garbage on the ground everywhere ( just like on the street). Everyone dressed in rags and plastic flip-flops. Everyone earning a dollar a day from the rich Indians, I guess. Friend, to outsiders it is not impressive, and neither are the end products, which start to look like old ruins 30 days after being finished.

        Your dad was in the British army a jillion years ago and you’re a boxing genius, so of course you don’t have to answer these questions, since you are an Islamic prince in welder’s clothes and we’re all just dog kafirs, or females. So I’ll just say have a nice day!

      • indian / Aug 22 2014 5:10 pm

        U muslim terrorist… u better go and fight for hamas…or boko haram…
        Or fight for paleisten. … some day us will kill u like osama bin Laden

    • whateveryousaysilly / Jul 30 2014 2:46 am

      Well said… esp the inheritance part.

  10. Duddu / Nov 25 2012 1:39 pm

    Elsa, what does her being Indian have to do with her behaviour? For the record, I’m an Indian and yes, I’ve told off other Indians for using cellphones in movie theaters. So, which of us is the ‘real’ Indian? Or *gasp* could it be that every person is different and that you cannot judge an entire nationality based on the actions of one, two or ten people? I’ll be the first to admit that some Indians can be very rude, but I go out of my way to be polite and courteous. Aren’t you and that passive-aggressive dude from Niagara Falls making the situation worse by stereotyping us all and making us feel guilty, as an ethnicity or nationality, for the actions of other individuals? Why is it my fault?

  11. Human / Dec 25 2012 2:30 pm

    wow….so much about indians…..i personally dont agree with most indian beaviour. they r rude, disresepctful n encroaching. but this also has much to do with as someone up said, survival-of-the-fittest attitude. it is about culture n upbringing. but the biggest factor is fear which is deeply embedded into our culture. we fear about everything; losing in a competitive environment, failing in school, getting hurt, failin in reationships/marriages, failing in business. in india failing is not an option. and we fear god, not love. so its a complicated situation. while i was born and brought up there, i grew in a different environment, where we were taught to be agnostic, stand-up to any injustice and not to be afraid of anything in this universe. but often in my circles, am talked about for being outspoken, brash and many people keep away which is fine with me. i have had some crazy experiences in life and i can write several short stories. one of them being, our lady-help was being beaten by her drunk husband in the streets watched by at least 25 able bodied men. i intervened, even though i was in a crutch due to a knee surgery, eventually knocked him down (am alright in hand-to-hand combat :)) and lecture the crowd about female-exploitation et al. but there r some, who r amazing n simply the best people to be with. deep down, every indian, if u observe their intent, is not mean, destructive or malicious.

  12. molly douglas / Dec 30 2012 8:39 am

    today I was the third woman in line at a rite aid store. The clerk was a young girl. A man from India came into the store walked around the line over to the photo counter. There was only the one checker. He yelled to her “is there anyone over here to help me” and the checker replied she would be over there to help him when she was finished with the three of us who were in line already. He yelled to her “those are just women, they can wait, I am in a hurry.” I felt sorry for the young checker. She looked confused and as if she did not know what to do. The first lady said something to him about being there first, the second lady turned to him and said you are rude, I turned to him and said I am in just as much of a hurry as you are. I could not believe his demeaning comment and behavior. The checker continued with the three of us. She then excused herself from the person who had stepped into line behind me and went over to help him because he was yelling how it was not right that she would wait on us before him because we are women. If he feels that way then he needs to get out of this country and go home. That also goes for the guy up the street that makes his wife walk a half a block behind him. This is rude unacceptable behavior. I am a manager of a bank and have a customer from the middle East who told me I need to get up from my desk and count his deposits because as a woman I am lucky to have a job and he will not go to male tellers when there are females in the bank. The males should be the managers. We as females have “wrongly taken away jobs from the men.” I told him he either goes to those who are paid to count his money or find another bank. I also told him we have had enough of his comments and have his account under review for closure and a restraining order. He can pitch his fits somewhere else.

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Dec 31 2012 4:00 am

      wow, those are quite strong examples of the mentality of men from the eastern part of the world. Issues of equality of women are something that the Middle East and south east Asia are still grappling with. There have been horrendous incidents of rape and eve-teasing in India, which have come to the fore in media recently. That topic itself just deserves a whole together different blog probably.
      Also, no wonder that places like the UK want to take cultural assimilation into account before handing out green cards or long term visas, they might just help to keep pricks like those cited above, out of your country.

    • clare / May 15 2013 4:52 am

      the above story about the Indian man in Rite Aid seems to be unbelievable. I agree in the Middle East culture (Saudi for example) a woman must walk a few steps behind her husband. So also in the case of Princess Kate Middleton. So is the UK monarchy following rude unacceptable behavior?

  13. nino kam / Jan 3 2013 2:59 pm

    I am living with them in an apartment,,they are always rude which comes from their background, their culture always attribute if you are mean and they all need someone to dominant them, if you do so you can control them,but if you respect them they think you are a loser, they abused by eachother so you should do the same otherwise them never appreciate your friendship,

  14. ks / Jan 4 2013 3:55 pm

    Hi there,

    I am an Indian living in the USA for 5 months now, so I am not ‘westernized’ as yet. I really like your perspective and I do feel that your post pretty much hit the nail on the head. Your ideas in this post resonate with what I think. However, I am sorry to admit that more often than not I am embarrassed by the behavior of my fellow Indians and I can see why most of the stereotypes exist.

    I am not really surprised though, as even back in India I couldn’t get used to the apparent rudeness. But even if it was fine there, which it wasn’t – I believe ‘When in Rome do as Romans do’. So, it does sadden me.

    Thank you for your post. On the bright side, there is some hope in the younger generation.

  15. Advice please / Jan 30 2013 8:02 am

    Thank you so much for writing this post. I have ended up on your site as a result of a google attempt to figure out the exact question this blog addresses, and I thank you for your insights -as well as those of the other commenters.

    Today I had an incident with a parking attendant who I assume was a first generation south Asian (based on accent alone). I wrote it off as just dealing with a “jerk”. However, as I was driving to my next location, my mother called me and noticed that I was agitated. She asked me what was wrong and I just blurted out “Indians are so $&?!ing rude and sheisty”.

    I would like to note that speaking ill of anyone is completely out of character for me, and I realized what I had done before my mother – who raised me far too well for me to be speaking in that manner – tore a strip off of me for my admittedly gross generalization.

    As I was driving I spent the entire time trying to explain, psychologically, the pattern I had seen far too many times throughout my adult life. I had come to the conclusion that my issues where generally with first generation Indians (over those raised in Canada). I have a number of Indian friends, raised in Canada whose social interactions are not anything I would deem as rude or out of the ordinary.

    I also came to the conclusion that many of my interactions that led me to infer that Indians were rude could be accounted for by population vs resource issues (as mentioned in earlier posts) and that those issues I was able to account for were based on nurture (more common in first generationers) than nature (as you would otherwise expect that trait to survive more profoundly in future generations, regardless of where they were raised).

    So. I’ve established that some of my issues can be explained via culture, but there are a few things, which remain oustanding, that I would be most grateful to receive feedback on.

    Lying and cheating. I get needing to be number one and ahead of the pack, but what legitimizes it? It has been repeatedly said that Indians are very religious. I’ve not known a religion to condone putting oneself ahead of others. Am I wrong?

    Most important to my day-to-day sanity. The lack of faith in women and their abilities.
    I can accept that Indian men are not required culturally to be as respectful to women as they should be by North American standards. What I don’t understand is the fact that they think women are intellectually inferior. I am a senior executive, reporting directly to the president of my firm. Every time we have a meeting with an Indian client,I must bring one of my male staff who works under me to do the majority of the talking because ALL of my Indian clients do not accept my answers. This is a complet waste of my time and the time of my staff – who could be working on other projects. Whenever possible, we try to assign males to Indian files, but that is not always possible, as only I am permitted to work on more complicated cases which sometimes are those with Indian representatives. Any advice or explanation would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks, again, so much for this post. it was very helpful and initiated a discussion that is certainly topical, as evidenced by the amount of responses you have received.

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Jan 30 2013 9:41 pm

      Thank you for your comment, from your post I see that there are basically two things that you would like another perspective on:

      1.Lying and Cheating – I think it would be a huge generalization if someone were to say that Indian lie and cheat to get ahead of others. I have seen Indian being very competitive and trying to out do others but I don’t think we can extrapolate it to say that many of us lie and cheat. Corruption is a big issue in the whole of developing world. You’ve got to ask the questions why is it that most developing countries are prone to it? There must be an underlying cause for it.
      Many Indians are very religious but you can call it hypocrisy that what is preached is not followed. I have talked about the Indian hypocrisy in the Indian society at length with my friends. It is just the way that culturally people are taught to be right from childhood.

      2. Respect and equality to women – It is notable that India, unlike most of the western world, has not had a feminist movement as yet. You’ve got to ask the question – What was so bad with the way women were treated in the west that there had to be a whole feminist movement for women rights in the 60s and early 70s ? The Indian society is only catching up with the developed world and as time goes on I am sure Indians will learn that women in the work force are as important and can be as skilled as men. More Indian women are joining the work force and their importance is being realized. As for the Indian clients that you have, sometimes some things just cannot be helped, clients seem to come up with unreal expectations and we’ve just got to meet them and move on.

      Having said all that I said there is just one bottom line: It depends on you if you want to judge someone based on where they are from and cut out your interactions with them based on your judgements or if you want to be open and accepting and see how things go…..The latter might bring some good experiences to you, while the former might keep you from some bad experiences that you might have a chance of coming across every now or then.

      If you think Indians are the only rude one’s that is wrong, I was in America in 2011 and came across some pretty rude behavior from the Americans. You can read my post titled: “Racist Intentions”

      CHOCOLATE.

      • whateveryousaysilly / Jul 30 2014 3:01 am

        Upper class / overprivileged Indians will justify everything because everything is going well for them.

    • Dave / Feb 5 2013 11:55 pm

      Advice please – regarding your first question, I once asked an Indian friend why dishonest business dealings seem so prevalent. He replied, “Our gods lie, cheat, steal and murder. So do we.” The Hindu religion doesn’t have a unified system of beliefs, but in general it does not make primary the idea of loving your neighbor, or being a person of integrity. Instead it ~generally~ elevates sensual pleasure, wealth and liberation from the wheel of reincarnation.

  16. Mark / Jan 30 2013 8:54 am

    To hell with them all. No deodotant wearing stinking ass people. Deport their smelly asses back to that bug infested dump in SW Asia where they came from.

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Jan 30 2013 9:44 pm

      If that was to be done, a chunk of the American GDP, IT sector, healthcare would be wiped off, If you are ready to take that gamble as yet, sure :P

  17. Nitya / Feb 14 2013 8:09 pm

    Hi! I came across this thread when I randomly searched for why Indians have a lot of hair. Yes, I was in a goofy mood and very bored. Funnily, the search engine came up with the words rude, and arrogant before I could type the “lot of hair” part. So I decided to see whats up. I am not Indian, nor American, nor a ABCD, nor a FOB. I am well, just me. I feel this way mostly because although I was born in India I came to the US when I was only 10 yrs old. Now almost 30, I realize that, with globalization so rampant. Each person is their own unique set of experiences that generate in them a different set of qualities that are special to them alone. My husband is very much Indian, and I guess me getting married to an Indian makes me somewhat Indian. But! I cannot stand his “Indian-ness” sometimes. Anyway, I don’t mean to rant about who I am for any longer, sounds very Indian and here I am…An interesting angle I wanted to add to the thread was, appearance. Appearance is a huge factor in determining behavior of one towards oneself and towards others and others towards you. Make the best first impression they always say. I feel that Indians feel inferior to other races on many levels. When it comes to appearance, the result is an inferiority complex. I know I had it. When I was 10, in my school, I was the only one from India. I saw my school photo and wondered why I looked so dark compared to others. Oddly enough, this is an issue that is very intense in India. People literally gravel at the feet of beautiful movie stars as if they were Gods because they are fair, very fair and don’t look one bit like the average Indian there. Dark skin is shunned upon, and they sell fairness creams. Probably the only country in the world to do so to my knowledge. So throw a few Indians in with a few fair skinned Americans and what do you get. Nerdy Indians. Indians hide behind their education, because that is the one thing that they can do well. They go nuts about education, to the point of committing suicide if unsuccessful. I did it, not suicide but hiding. I was so scared and self-conscious about my looks and my accent that I hid behind books. I wanted praise. And yes, knowledge is power, but an A grade is a reason to brag and a path to well, pride and too many As make you believe you’re the smartest in the class in all aspects of a person’s personality. Then you make fun of the jocks, and say how sports is so beneath you. Then you hit 30 and realize you just ate a whole pizza and can’t digest it. Life is tough. But yes, I have also observed that in India, no body cares for one another. And in a way it is their philosophy too. They believe, well most religious folks believe that this is the kali yuga. The last part of creation and the worst part of it. This is the time when all things go haywire, love stops being real and everyone is seeking salvation sorry, liberation from the cycle of birth and death. So who cares. This is the time to be bad. Do the deed and then ask for forgiveness or not, just scapegoat. Indians, their philosophy and history are very confusing to me. Probably why I think about it so much. Alas, I live amidst them and they constantly tell me I think too much and should be practical. But then again, who doesn’t say that in this day and age. I know there is a whole world of goodness out their and that thought gives me more peace of mind than the thought that I am of indian origin. Goodness is there and it will always triumph no matter who you are. People should believe in good things to be good. These guys don’t know what they believe in, it is whatever floats your boat. They follow westerners but yet they curse America which has given them SO MUCH.

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Feb 15 2013 8:54 pm

      Interesting post! Although I would say that I do not agree with all that you said. Just as you feel that even though you are of Indian Origin and yet don’t have too big a liking for the “Indian Culture”, I am sure there are millions of Indians who feel the same way about the perceived Indian Culture and detest it the same way as you do. So, it isn’t like every Indian is bad/good.

      Not all Indians are pious or religiously prejudiced either, not all are short on confidence. Some of them make great friends or family. It would all come down to how everyone is as an individual, you cannot for sure judge a book just by its cover, you need to dig deep.

      It is true that a lot of Indians work very hard in school/college/careers but there are other reasons for it than just lack of having nothing better to do. Through the 80s and 90s people have grown up believing that if you do not work hard you are going to have a poor standard of living, which was quite true until the last decade. There are more alternative life-styles, career options opening up for Indians. The society is catching up with the rest of the world.

  18. mysteria / Feb 24 2013 8:43 pm

    Very informative blog and sometimes really hilarious. Ive had some good and bad experiences with Indians in America and customer service related experiences with Indians overseas. In college at the university level, it seemed to me the Indians that were raised in America in general were very bright and considerate. Of course they had the drive and determination like many asian races. But I noticed that the international indian students lacked very basic etiquette like personal space and cosideration for your peers.

    Now experiences with customer service. Recently Ive noticed a lot more big companies like American Express using outsourced Indian call centers for their telephone customer service help. It can be very challenging understang their English and this is a problem especially when discussing financial information.

    The rudeness discussion is very real in every culture, but I do believe it has alot to do with your surroundings. Survival of the fittest is the ideal explaination.

  19. analytical / Mar 2 2013 1:32 pm

    The author is correct in analyzing the root cause of this behaviour. There are many of us, therefore there are many good among us and many, many not so good. This is the same as in any other country but in our case, you multiply any count by a factor of atleast 1000. Therefore, some good, others not so good translates to many good and many, many not so good.

  20. April / Mar 14 2013 12:20 am

    I absolutely agree with ur statement, I felt Indians men more often been so rude in every circumstances life, sometimes I feel like want to throw them up , or smashed them in the face. It cannot be tolerate anymore, I’m sick of it. They must change they behaviour, or even noticed it . Unfortunately in London, they are too many..

  21. Raj Chandran / Mar 18 2013 8:53 am

    Hmm.. There are many reasons why an American or European feels that we Indians are scummy, sneaky, smelly, rude .. The list goes on.

    India is a big place, lots of competition, and a scarcity of resources in last 100 odd years have shaped how we behave. We compete and compare, that is the only way one can constantly adapt and progress.. We stare, your blond hair, porcelain skin, and big personality is difficult to comprehend at a glance. We smell, because there is a lot of ginger, garlic, mustard, coriander, turmeric and other spices in our cooking..

    I lied about staring .. Fact is, to you India is a racially diverse, and heterogenous country. But we actually exist in pockets of homogeneity spread across the subcontinent, a Tamil woman from south india may have never met a Bengali woman in her entire life. Both will stare at each other if they ever meet, herm .. What is this animal in this weird garb ? This anomaly this exposed when we come to a completely foreign culture. We have to stare, babies stare .. That’s how we learn.

    Mostly, western culture has reached us thru work, pop culture or technology but not thru the western fundamental ideas of equality, individuality, ingenuity and sharing. That causes social difficulties like men not respecting women, or lack of ownership. We probably have heard about John Mayer but not about John Q Adams.

    But, after living in the west for sometime, a year for some, 10 years for others, we slowly adapt to your culture. Now we don’t stare, we have seen enough beautiful women, we pay big tips, to compensate for our brothers, we don’t ask personal questions, because we have done our bit, climbed our own Mt. Everest. We say hi to you, because that feels so great! We still cook with spices, sorry cant do without.

    And this is a little corny .. But … We love this country, and its people. You have given us this opportunity and we work to make this a better place, treat a sick kid, make a new product, work for the homeless. We even make nice little baby Indian Americans.

    Thanks

  22. nadi / Mar 27 2013 10:53 pm

    Working in retail for 4 yrs the only rude people i have came across were white and blacks i never had bad experience from any Indian, Chinese or any other race they were nice but on the other hand white people treat people working in customer service as there punching bag. Whites are so rude and disrespectful and while driving thy love to show the middle finger apparently at every single thing

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  24. American Indian American / Mar 31 2013 3:40 am

    Indians are rude in the context of American etiquette until and unless they understand or assimilate into the country that has received them. I’m an American by birth of Indian parents, exposed to many cultures locally and through global travel. I’ve learned that EACH INDIVIDUAL DESERVES A FIRST CHANCE, and when they fail it, they give credibility to broad stereotypes, exaggerations, and the ugly truths that people try to deny. You realistically have to be street-wise with stereotypes, but don’t make too many assumptions of people who might be more than skin deep.

  25. marie / Apr 26 2013 4:16 pm

    i work in tourism industry along with my friends, and we do have something in common whatever department we are in, we found guests from india arab and china are rude but india and arab are the worst. the ironic thing is what my friend from food and beverage told me about the events when the arab and india call her “stupid asian” because she asked them politely to talk to her supervisor for their complains and wait while she tried to connect them with the supervisor as the procedure, n make us like “excuse me who the hell are you???” there heaps of stories but mostly it allready written above. seem like this rudeness is rotten in their soul. must be so tired to grow up thinking that their race better than anyone and found that they been left behind.

  26. Jamie / Apr 27 2013 6:00 am

    I have my own business and i don’t deal with Indians. They have fucked me off too many times. They are indecisive and try get everything on discount. They are inconsiderate people. This is a generalization – i’ll change it to MOST indians are inconsiderate. I live in an apartment with indian neighbors and they do whatever the fuck they want and be loud and smell like curry and dont ever have any awareness of people around then. In stores, they push in front of me and again, try and get everything on discount. I hate to be racist.. but this is all true and i know a ton of people will agree with me.

    • Robertson / Nov 8 2013 10:41 pm

      While in India I learned the kind-of a-joke that Indians and Chinese can’t do business very well together because the Chinese will never sell unless they can get the full price, and the Indians will never buy unless they can get a discount, so that makes deals difficult.

      BTW I landed on this page by googling “why Indians rude” and it was one of the first thirty results. But there were many others to choose from….

  27. Emma / Apr 29 2013 7:52 pm

    Well I have married an Indian man and he is not rude, HOWEVER, after spending 4 months travelling from north to south of India, I can definately say that I came across far too many rude indians to mention. So much so, that I could never consider living in that country. My husband cannot stand the way of life there as well, not to mention the corruption that rears it’s head at every chance. The issue of not respecting personal space is a cultural one, and some of the rudeness came from this. But most times, it was just in the way you were served in a hotel, restaurant, even spoken to by a doctor. The women sometimes even more forceful than the men. This is not just from people on the street, it is from the professionals as well. I find it sad that a country that has so many amazing spiritual teachings has so many people horrible people in it. Yes, it may not be their fault, as they are so poorly paid and can never get ahead, they become so disheartened with life, that they want to treat people the same way that they feel inside. So we can understand and perhaps forgive the behaviour, but we cannot say, that they are not being rude. Because they are definately rude. I have noticed this in other developing countries, ie; Vietnam, where the people are struggling, but India was worse than Vietnam for me. I am very well travelled, having visited some 40 countries.

  28. Robert / May 3 2013 6:35 am

    Actually Indian people are some of the most intellectual people on the planet. Why? Education is priority at a very young age. How many panhandlers do you see who are Indians? How many Indians do you see unemployed? The Indian people who come to the US are all highly educated and are tremendous contributers to medicine, science, teaching and technology. Cultural differences are evident compared to the mainstream American way of life. But that’s the way all races are pretty much. You can’t expect someone whose lived most of their life in India to come to the US and adapt to change right away.

    The vast majority of Indians who immigrate to the US are grateful to be here. They are starting a new life and contributing to society. There are a lot of white people who are vagrants. Panhandling bums who’re permanently detached from society living on street drugs and liquor that have NO place in our society. Is that a racist statement? No. The proof is in the pudding. Asian people in general have an extremely high regard for education unlike other cultures. This is why India is passing up the US technology wise.

    When I was in high school decades ago it was the asian students who’re really well grounded to their studies. They never caused any trouble and minded their own business. The worst students were many of the caucasian students and the hispanic students. Many of the caucasian and hispanic students were responsible for a lot of problems on campus and in the classroom. I know that parents of asian children have very high expectations for their children. This is why these kids stay out of trouble, develop excellent social skills and become extremely successful in life. The key is education and strong family values that yield to children who’re highly educated and major success stories in their adult years.

    • Robertson / Nov 8 2013 10:30 pm

      I have seen hundreds of Indian panhandlers and thousands of unemployed Indian loafers on the streets…in India. If I had been there long enough I could have run those numbers up to thousands and millions. But like the lumpenproletariat from any country, they aren’t the group that supplies the immigrants to the USA, Oz, or the UK. Those immigrants are the usual hustling, ambitious immigrants whose children will be driven to do very well, like the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Germans, and many others before them.

      If India is “passing up the US technology wise” then that will come as news to everyone, not said as a matter of prejudice but as a matter of fact. India for whatever reason doesn’t originate much technologically now. India doesn’t have a single campus in the latest list of the top 200 international research universities. Independent thinking is not prioritized, and the salaries are far too low to attract great professors from abroad or keep great Indian professors from heading to Cambridge or CalTech.

      India’s IT position is a matter of deliberately seeking outsourced work on drone-level projects from western businesses, and controversially exporting contract programmers who will undercut American (for example) techies on pay, since any American salary looks great to almost anyone from India, a land of chronically low wages even for educated people.

  29. claire / May 15 2013 11:03 pm

    I needed to add my thoughts to this. I got quite worked up since reading this blog. I sympathize with Chocolate’s experience on the flight. The incident in Washington is appalling to say the least. Yes we Indians do get differential treatment through customer service. I still do. I am an Indian with light colored skin. It is funny to see customer service personnel give me warm smiles and polite Hellos but the minute I open my mouth and speak my “Indian” accent the smile awkwardly fades and their whole persona shifts to curtness. Its hilarious at the same time rude and tacky.
    I had another experience recently. My hubby and I were invited to a tourist agency which was trying to sell a package deal to customers. The couples were called in one by one. Not only was the couple that arrived after us taken into the conference room before us but every other couple was. My first feeling was maybe she just missed our file. We were seated right next to the door through which she was ushering people into the conference room . I caught her eye but she only smiled and went about whatever she was doing. it came to the point where the whole room was empty. I knew then they were being racist. I was at the point where i was telling my husband that maybe it was time to leave. Then she comes out to the waiting area and tells us that if we are interested in the deal she will take us in otherwise it would only be waste of both our times. This was not done to any other couple. Needless to say we left.If they wanted our money they had to do better than that.

    I can fill pages with incidents like this of rude “non-Indian” people(wink).

    I want to point out that not every “brown skinned”, “thick accented” individual is an Indian. There are people from other Asian countries too you know (like Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka etc) who look and sound “Indian” and live in the United States.Agreed that the number of Indians flocking to the US definitely surpasses those from other Asian countries I mentioned.But this misconception of every “dark” or “brown skinned”, “heavy-accented” individual being Indian is compounded by the fact that the newly immigrated, “Indian looking” Asian is as yet cultural ignorant making it seem that the whole nation of India, and India only, is comprised of rude people. This is so wrong and illogical. All I can i say is please give us time to absorb and adapt to the culture. You learn by trial and error. I try my best to be polite.Most times it might just be plain ignorance which makes people act in ways perceived as rude. The cultural etiquette here is different from that in India. Sometimes maybe just politely explaining the expected behavior or response ( as in the case of the MIddle Eastern man demanding his deposits be counted by a woman. I actually lived 18 yrs in the Middle East and i have seen Arab women working as doctors, secretaries,nurses, receptionists,school administrators, in embassies etc) .People need to understand that in US we have to live by the etiquette standards applicable here and sometimes pointers may just work in getting people to change and adapt quicker.

    To Molly Douglas: How do you know the man at Rite Aid is an Indian.Did you see his Birth records? Even something like a driver’s license is not going to give anyone a sure fire way of knowing a person is Indian.He could very well be Bangladeshi or Pakistani or Nepali for all you know.
    I think personally some people from ALL countries of the world are rude .But the so called fact of ALL Indians being rude is exacerbated by the ignorant stereotyping I talked about
    The mention of Indians cutting lines. i haven’t really seen or heard or done anything like that.Personally speaking it is not right. If it bothers someone so much as to post nasty comments on it why not just politely ask the person that they need to join the end of the queue that’s already formed.

    • Adriana / Sep 25 2014 7:38 pm

      Oh I wouldn’t group Sri Lankans with all of them. A completely different country and people, and I must say from personal experience they are some of the kindest and friendliest people you will ever meet. I lived in Sri Lanka for a couple years and had some of the best times of my life and ever since I left I’ve always wanted to go back! I’ve also noticed that unlike Indians (I don’t mean this to be racist in any way, it’s just an observation) Sri Lankans both living in Sri Lanka and in other countries are lovely people. I’m not sure if this is because they are a predominantly Buddhist nation or because Sri Lanka is the most westernized country in South Asia. Also, Sri Lanka has the highest Human Development Index in all of South Asia, has a 92% literacy rate, and does not discriminate against women (elected the world’s first female prime minister, and I’ve seen many women working in all levels in all industries). All of these may be reasons as to why they are different.

      Well I see that I’ve been rambling for a while, but the point I originally wanted to make was don’t ignorantly group different people and nations together because each country and its people have their own unique identity and deserve to be recognized for it! I feel strongly about this because I too once assumed that Sri Lanka (and Sri Lankans) was pretty much the same as India (and Indians) due to their location but once I went there (also went to India a while after that) boy did I realize how ignorant and wrong I was!! Even their accent is different which I found surprising!!! It’s more like an accent from one of the Caribbean islands.

      Also, to answer the original question, I don’t think it’s fair to say ALL Indians are rude, just because of a handful of people. I have personally had a lot of unpleasant experiences with Indians, but I have also met some lovely Indian people and it’s just wrong to assume everyone is the same!

  30. Mitch / May 25 2013 8:54 am

    A lot of Indians are unbearable, but I’ve had good experiences with working class Indians. The Tamilian guy who runs a local grocery store always lets me go the the front of the line if I stop while I’m working, and a guy from Delhi who runs a different store always give me a free mango juice. The guys at one local restaurant are very friendly, and I love the Sikh family that runs my favorite gas stations. More professional Indians can be insufferable pricks and I hate dealing with them, although even in that demographic I’ve met a handful of decent people.

  31. tippyindian / Jun 7 2013 5:33 pm

    well… im Indian… i’ve not visited america.. and the only place i’ve traveled abroad to was Hong Kong -so as far as experience goes i cant say much.

    but a few thing about India and their people
    1)BUSINESS IN NOT PLEASANT- I have seen people work with margins of 1% and 2% on their costing. in India they don’t think about anything but getting the best at the lowest cost imaginable. you bargain your head off…
    2)UNFORTUNATELY ITS OUR CULTURE TO BE INQUISITIVE- everybody wants to know what everyone is doing.(really don’t like that)
    3)GENDER DISCRIMINATION: if you think discrimination happens at your work place. Try living with it for two decades….:)
    4) FOR MOST INDIANS AMERICA IS LIKE A BIG BROTHER OR SISTER: seriously. how many times have you tried to copy what your brother and sister did when you were growing up? only to be thrown out of the room? America is magical.. a place you see only in Hollywood.. we copy you coz we wanna be like you………
    5)WE WORK FOR YOU. most Indians work for Americans. make their life easier. you tell us to leave america…but your economy”s back end operations is run by Indians. we”re not stealing anyone’s job.american companies gave it to us coz its too expensive to run the same in america.
    i get paid 1\10th the cost of what i would be paid if i worked the same job abroad.
    6) I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE CUTTING LINES… MAKES ME GO CRAZY IN INDIA….

    • Luis / Jul 3 2013 5:04 am

      OK. Indians. Now I was born and bred in the UK and lived in London for 13 years. I’ve seen the habits of a lot of nationalities…whether citizens or tourists.
      Indians are high on pretty bad…not as bad as Arabs, Pakistanis, new rich Chinese and new rich Russians when it comes to manners but pretty high. How often do you see those groups with bags full of designer goods more so than people of other backgrounds. It’s quite vulgar really.
      All those groups are obsessed with materialism and have an amazing lack of class. You will not get “please” or “thank you”…which among the English is weird. Let’s be clear here. Bengalis are friendly.. a bit backward but friendly. The Japanese are amazing. South Americans are lovely too.

  32. Rose Hoffacker / Aug 29 2013 2:18 am

    This is just generalized crap. There are rude people all over the world. I visited Bombay with my mother and took a train to a neighboring suburb. A nice young man got up and gave me his seat on the train so that I could sit with my mother. He stood the whole trip. When I was visiting Disney, and pregnant with my first child, no one got up to give up their seat on the shuttle bus. I stood, along side my husband. There were whites, browns,blacks and yellows on that bus. I have had indian men open doors for me and insist I enter first, and some who’ve slammed them shut behind them, not caring that I was right behind. People are people, all over. I personally don’t find that indians smell…that’s just such a racist statement. I’d rather smell spices than stale alcohol or cigarette breath any day.

  33. Sid / Oct 6 2013 5:09 am

    I think Indians are just plain blunt, that’s taken as rudeness mostly. I study in a US university and we always make sure we are very polite to everyone specially non-Indians. It saddens me that people think Indians are rude, and if they are actually then its sadder :(

    • Vanilla Chocolate / Oct 6 2013 6:11 am

      Hmm…..It is really hard for me to say how rude Indians are comparatively.I feel I have to see more of the world to be able to say for sure.

      But one thing I can assure you is that there are loads of people who come looking for “Why are Indians so rude.” and land up on this post.

      With respect to your comment about Indians being just blunt, I think it’s more on the lines of Indians lacking empathy for others’ feelings and emotions.

  34. sheena / Nov 23 2013 7:31 am

    Really? I think Indians pretend to be very good and decent people, but they love talking sh*t about you when you’re not around. They are usually 2-faced. And not Indians, it is the hindus that stink. Pakistani Hindus also stink.

  35. Michael / Dec 14 2013 7:43 pm

    I notice there is a definite rudeness and disrespect there. I don’t know if it’s confined to one region of their country or if it’s characteristic of the entire nation. But they don’t seem to display kindness or respect when in business.

  36. aishajupid grap / Dec 27 2013 4:19 am

    I am not fond of them. I met in my life about 20 of them (indian, sri lankas, pakistany) which were very rude, corrupted, lazy and abusive to whites , especially to white females. They are extreme racist.
    Have no manners and do not feel at all bad conscience when do something nasty backstab anytime. Take everyone as rival e.g. at work, as they are (most of them) secretly aware of their own incompetency. Lucky them there is always some uncle or cousin to help them get the job and retain it even if they are not very productive – they may work all day hard but for some reason their collegues have to make up for they mistakes and slowness. Unable to adjust, even after many years,to European or / and US culture.There are some really talented ones but talented people can be found anywhere but the superiority complex all of these people have is shocking.
    I also met ONE gentleman who was excellent in his manners and a very decent and educated guy.
    The ratio is 1:20 ,in my view.

  37. Mehendi / Dec 28 2013 3:53 am

    I am an Indian woman, studying in USA. I agree 100% that Indians are the worst race on earth. Please bear in mind that they don’t just act rude or insensitive to Americans or other nationalities, but to fellow Indians as well. I am a very well cultured, extremely well educated woman from New Delhi and I was never ever exposed to the cultures in smaller towns of India. But surprise, surprise, I come to study in USA, and I find people from small cities (which incidentally, I did not even know, existed). Their behavior left me stunned, shocked, and in need of therapy. Imagine, “my fellow indian youth” !!! Some instances, that might be food for thought. An Indian next door neighbor, who I had been on JUST “Hello” terms, knocks on my door at 1-2 AM, and by knocks means bangs on it, as if to break it. I ignore the first time, but then the second time: He has a sheepish grin (no shame, mind you) and asks for my internet password ! Talk about polite requesting. Another guy (?, I have serious doubts on his masculinity) asks every girl (who mistakenly makes him a friend) for Sex !!! I know the hook up culture might be in vogue, but every girl who has the courtesy to talk to this guy is propositioned blatantly for sex. And if she refuses (obviously !): oh she’s a slut ! Another guy from a small town -village in India had the audacity to come to me and say, since I am from Delhi I would be a fast girl (insert synonyms: Slut, easy…). New Delhi, incidentally despite having problems that every big city around the world has, has some of the best educational institutions, some of the best opportunities,some of the best people of high moral values, you name it. But this guy had an unshakable opinion that Delhi girls (all of them !) have nothing better to do but get laid. And his reasoning: that’s a prequisite of someone coming from Delhi. Its bad enough that Delhi girls face harassment from uncouth males everyday in Delhi, but imagine one of them comes to USA and has to listen to this. There’s more, much more…but you get the idea. And I hope you understand my plight. Being Indian I gravitated towards Indians in USA and my expirence has been very very bitter. In retrospect, I have come to the conclusion that my experience has been the best with Americans, as they are mostly very well behaved. The people from other nationalities have been great too. But Indians….need I say more ?

  38. sujata / Dec 30 2013 9:13 am

    LOL at some of the over the top comments here. I’m Indian and fyi, I spend quite a bit of time getting frustrated at my fellowmen/women for their utter thickheadedness and insensitivity. I could go on and on but here’s the point, I believe every person picks on some race to score over. I have diatribes with my white friends over Hispanic and Black bad habits, they probably do the same with their friends over Indians and so on. We all think we’re just that little bit superior to ‘that one over there’.
    Let me explain why Indians are the way they are – we have grown up with values that are completely different from others. In some ways, we have the strongest morals – honor thy parents and elders and teachers, for eg. We really know how to honor them! Do not steal or commit adultery – ok, we try our best and most succeed. Love thy kids – yes, we’ll work ourselves to the bone saving up for our grandkids’ college tuition. The bad habits are – its ok to keep servants and underpay them, be rude to foreigners, poor people, taxi drivers, shopkeepers etc because everyone’s out to gyp you or harass you.
    Good people, as an Indian I ask you to be patient with us. I have to be with my relatives and friends. They can be a pain in the neck, but in the end, Indians do have good habits too. They won’t steal or rob banks at least.

    • Essa Askar / Feb 26 2014 5:54 pm

      Indians are the rudest and insensitive group of people I have had contact with, out of all nationalities.

      Their culture has many positives but the negatives are so disgusting that I have lost all respect for that country.

      Indians are usually incredibly rude, they never behave politely. They are racist towards their own people of lower castes and this extends naturally to all non Indians especially darker skinned people.

      These characteristics are also apparent in Pakistanis and Bangladeshis who also still retain the backwards Hindu culture despite being majority Muslim countries

      Indians treat women like garbage. They have an epidemic of female infanticide, rape and acid attacks against women. There is an unprecedented level of female orphans, sex slaves and homeless people in India.

      The contrast between the rich and poor, and the utter disgust the rich upper caste Indians treat the lower caste poor people is shocking. Lower castes cannot even touch an upper caste person as they are considered dirty and inferior.

      Despite the fact that India has a lower female population due to abortion of female Infants, the lower castes have more daughters. However no one wants this surplus of lower caste women. This is why many of then become prostitutes known as Adivasis supported by local Hindu temples.

      All in all India is an extremely backward and ignorant place. Ofcourse this does not mean that they are doomed. I think the future will be better if the rich are willing to remedy these issues.

    • pooppy / Mar 2 2014 7:30 am

      they rob your soul!!!

  39. lisa / Mar 13 2014 9:35 pm

    I have to say Indians are really rude, multiple occasions I have encountered in my life but I have also met with Indians who are really nice-they address you by “Madam or Sir”, it feels like it has something to do with their class in India. My tenant is an indian women who is a teacher in Canada, given her education and her background, I could not believe some of the things she does and the lies she tells. On multiple occasion, she has been late for her rent, and she is significant late, rent is due on the 1st-pretty standard. She has never been on time, the earliest time I have received her rent cheque is on 7th, 8th of the month, but there are 3 times I didn’t get her rent cheque till 15th. I am worried she is dead because she always have male friends coming over and I have received multiple letters from strata about noise complaints. So I called her-she never picks up her phone btw, I left a message and she never replied, so then I have to text her “You are late, it is the middle of the month and I will have to charge a late fee”. Then she text me right back”I have a job you know! I don’t appreciate your rudeness!” Oh, wow, you have a job? I have a job too ,I don’t appreciate that I have to chase after a 30+ year old adult rent every month because she is unable to put her rent cheque in the mail on the 1st. The landlord charge a late fee as stated in rental contract for you being late for 15 days is rude?
    What, I am supposed to beg you for rent?
    Then it gets funnier, I asked her when did you sent out your cheque last month? She replied she asked her SECRETARY to send out the mail on the first, LIAR, the canada post stamp on the envelope says 10th. Then she says oh it is the blue bag system at work. -I guess she is referring the mail system at her school? Hey, girl, you don’t have to lie to me that you have a SECRETARY when you don’t and pretend you are some sort of FEMALE LORD-it is Canada not India the shithole you came from, we all know a teacher like you doesn’t have a secretary, you did not sent out your rent cheque on time and admit to it. Jesus, I don’t know how does this type of person become a teacher in the school district of Canada and how can this liar be the teacher of our Canadian kids and future generation. Seriously, just admit to your mistake and don’t lie.

    • Tired / Mar 25 2014 12:34 pm

      Send a letter to principal of the school about her tardiness-indicating how she can be a model for students. Also, talk to lawyer. Use law to kick out renters who cannot comply with contract. she has to respect laws in Canada.

  40. Phil / Mar 17 2014 9:38 pm

    Indians are ignorant back-stabbers as co-workers, as well. I’ve worked with them- they are obnoxious know-it-all’s. They don’t like the idea that, in so many cases, they HAVE to hire American salespeople, with whom they treat like scum. Nobody will buy from them with their stupid Hindi, East Punjab accents. They lie about everything including what they are going to pay you for commission, which you will never see. I worked for one. He was too lazy to run the sales team so he listened to one of his fellow brown-skinned sales a-holes who had a clean American accent. This Indian sales guy was a real get-ahead, back-stabbing Indian who was unbearable. He would run into the fellow Indian owner’s office and tell on anyone he felt like. I hated his guts, I hated the owner’s guts. I’m in the IT field and these pieces of vomit think they are so knowledgeable…the fact is, they are not…they lie about their skills constantly. We should put a moratorium on accepting any more of them into the US. We don’t need them with so many Americans needing jobs. They are arrogant; they are obnoxious, they treat Americans like crap and they are cheap….’nuff said.

  41. Tired / Mar 25 2014 12:26 pm

    We are tired of relentless discount from many Indian clients. After consulting my Indian buddy, co-workers, American bosses, I decided to send dis-engaging of service in the middle of the process. We felt we are under valued and under appreciated. After spending hours in researching law and simulations and answering many questions, when I presented tentative price, alas, the client ask for discount. This is not the first time but in past couple years. The situation needed more research and I have done it by staying very late, but I am just very discouraged to pursue his request. So, I will write a notice that I will not work on his matter. Take it with full pay or leave.

    Most of Indian clients are asking too much discount even after we spend a lot of time to explain, research, etc. All my colleagues share the same stories. Therefore, I am not judging by my own experience.

    Somebody in this forum said Indians from country side are different. There are many Indians from South and their caste is not the top one, but the second one or lower. IT industry allows them to explore the new horizon. But most of them are working as IT contractors in sweat shop situation with H1B visa with Green Card as a carrot in front of them. Their employer may not pay as promised; employers demand to repay to the cost of H1B/Green Card. (This is illegal by the way). So they are in survival mode.

    Even though, I believe they need to respect common sense in this country. In business, we of course negotiate, but with grace.

    It is part of US education’s fault to have influx of Indian H1B’s and illegal usage of visitor visas to come to the US because there are not so many people with programming/math skills in the US. Whereas Indian colleges are free, and there is huge motivation for those who with lower castes because IT skills overrides the social barriers in India.

    Like call centers in India have been infamous among US consumers, American are already know there are too many Indians here and are being annoyed by the differences which are already expressed by so many people here. But other countries such as Guatemala, Argentina, other countries are also developing IT businesses to serve US. They do not have time zone difference, and South American people with Spanish/Italian descendants are mostly white and very polite. Therefore, the shift from India to other countries are already happening. Days of India IT dominance are still strong, but American are tired of their “rudeness” and willing to change to other more accommodating nations.

    So, let them be rude, noisy, annoying, whatever. We cannot change them, so just write them off.

    • Rose Hoffacker / Mar 28 2014 3:55 pm

      This site has become an Indian bashing site, by indians and non indians. It’s ridiculous. Yes, there are rude indians. There are also nice polite ones. Just like there are rude Americans and polite ones. The indians have a different culture and much of what you experience is cultural differences. As an American in Europe, let me tell you that we are seen as rude and uncouth. You can spot an American a mile away by his loud voice and uncouth behaviour. Now realistically, that’s not true for everyone, but that is the perception carried by many people there.

  42. sketchup / Jun 5 2014 10:09 pm

    im an indian male born and raised in texas. with that being said, i fucking loath indian people. i have no indian friends and for good reasons. everything about that culture and race is awful. the people are rude, curry is the worst, and the overall global view of india is shit. im so happy i live where i do and i wouldnt trade it for the world. everything about the culture is trash. from the ridiculous relgion all the way to the “caste system”. i have made many leaps and strides to differentiate myself from being anything but indian, because i dont want to be looked at the same way as those dirty foreign jungle swingers. till this day i am truly ashamed to be indian. all the rapes and mistreatment of women makes me sick to my stomach. you would think that a country with millions upon millions of people would do something to make their country amazing, but all you get is rude smelly shitty people and bollywood. their overall attitude and they way the bobble their heads…SAY YES OR NO FUCKER! they look like those bobble heads you get from sport stadium gift shops. if i ever had a confrontation with a rude wet behind the ears FOB indian i would knock him out and tell the piece of shit to go pray to shiva to get your bobble town ass a one way ticket back to the shit stain of a country you call home. if the whole country got swallowed up by a tsunami or a massive earth quake, i would say good riddance.

  43. we all have a lot to learn / Jun 17 2014 8:14 am

    I am glad to have read this. I would like to note that most people who stumble upon this post is because they have some sort of frustration with Indian people so it is to be expected that you would see a lot of negative comments and perspectives. That being said I am no different though I would say I am different from most in needing a reason to value what someone says, meaning no matter how many negative or positive for that matter comments I read they wont effect my perspective unless I have a reason to let them. Like they seem rooted in logic or reason or truth. Emotional ranting is filtered out why bother wasting the energy to process it. And hating an entire race of people for many of them being non more sinister than annoying shows a intellectual and spiritual weakness that is ones own cross to bear. Hard to find joy with hate in owns heart. I am vastly grateful and effected by the Indians who spoke on here explaining their perspectives from a logical and intelligent point of view. They have represented themselves very well and completely changed my perspective of the Indian people. I now work in a area with a significant Indian population and have been for the first time exposed to their culture. I went to school with a few before but they were born here and to me and I guess most Americans since its the law, if you were born here your American no matter what you look like. So I would consider this my first time meeting Indian people. And I have began to think they were kinda rude too. I refuse to accept racism in myself so I came seeking answers some logical answer. This has been quite the experience I have learned so much about Indian culture, history, economics, politics and population from this post. What makes them the way they are. In my experience people tend to be more accepting of something if they understand why that something is. After learning so much about the Indian people I cant help but to have a great deal of respect for them and I wish them all the best. If its true about the conditions many of them live in how can you not applaud someone who has struggled to overcome such hardship and fight to make a better life for themselves. I still may not like some of their rudeness but at least I can understand it now. And I know they don’t neccesarily mean any harm by it either. Therefore I wont be quick to get upset by it. Maybe we can be friends if we just understood each other a bit better. I’ve read a great deal of nonsense on here but the most vulgar fallacy I’ve seen was the comment “Indians are the worst race” so I’d like to close with a little food for thought the idea that maybe we are all children in the eyes of the Lord all equally brilliant or stupid no matter how rich or poor all stumbling around blind still trying to figure out what we are still have not learned to share still destroying the very earth under our feet and ourselves in the process. There is no such thing as a superior or inferior race because there is only one race silly gooses.

  44. mookey / Jul 7 2014 8:48 am

    Honesty. I didn’t know too many Indians but the ones i do know of out of the 3 …2of them were in fact rude with no manners. The last incident that I had was with this indian women the type of job I have is working with special needs kids as she had one. I tried to be nice and see she wanted help around the house in fact my job did not require me to do this but it was actually against policy the extra work I did for her. But instead I saw she was constantly depressed so I helped her with cleaning. Any who the lady had no manners what so ever she had aggressive tone and would TELL me to do something other than ASK me nor did she say please and thank you. I felt bad for her husband as he would get a loud hollering voice if he didn’t do what she wanted.finally I got tired of her assuming I was going to every time do extra work I was not authorized to do while she sit and mope and be lazy sipping tea watching t.v so I simply remind her of what I am there for what I can or can’t do and boy did she ever make me feel like carp. Talking to me stupid and being rude I just dust my hands report it and kept moving. I am nobody servant I may be nice but I do have some back bone. So unfortunately I did have a bad encounter with a Indian. Her husband was coo a lol. Sarcastic but ok she was demanding rude and mean sad thing is I don’t think she realize that she is like that. Unfortunately it’s normal for her to act rude smh

  45. mookey / Jul 7 2014 8:55 am

    Oh I also noticed that she was very lazy,constantly online shopping,and nosey. Other than the mean and rude no manners this lady was NOSEY. She wanted to know my income my husband’s were we lived literally EVERYTHING.

  46. USA / Jul 8 2014 4:55 am

    Indians are the most deceptive people, especially South Indians. I have to deal with them at work on daily basics. They are very greedy, deceptive, smelly and always looking for shortcuts than working hard. Zero creativity. Most of the IT stuff they know is based on memorization rather than understanding the core principals, reasoning and logic. Now you know why their kids are good at spelling bees competitions. Kickback are very common if an Indian manager is using bunch of contractors. If there is an Indian manager and there are layoffs most likely anyone who is not Indian will be let go first.

  47. whateveryousaysilly / Aug 3 2014 9:36 am

    The softer I speak the louder they shout at me.

    You don’t “get respect if you give respect.” You will be taken advantage of and dragged through the dirt for the crime of being nice.

  48. Tarrne / Aug 25 2014 4:58 am

    i totally agree with the comments here about indian’s being rude. it’s just so glaring that you cannot miss. and get this, they aren’t just rude to foreigners but they are rude to other India’s as well, they segregate according to caste, complexion, sex, state, money power, looks, religion… the list is inexhaustible. just name it they will segregate you like a worm pinned on a wall. everyone here in India believes they have a right to speak their mind, oh and you know that ain’t anything pretty or soft, but no no don’t go taking their freedom of speech away, it is their birthright! loud and impolite behaviour is seen as childish and fun. being an indian girl myself, from the northeastern state of Arunachal Pradesh, i know just how cruel they can be, i myself almost got mobbed for taking out cash at a ATM vestibule. because i look different, as they so ready call me “chinki” but don’t worry there is a law that fines and imprisons people who call you out by racist slurs… do i need say it doesn’t work? small eyes, nose.. stuff, picture a normal Thai girl, you get how i look. here’s my story, i had to take out a large sum of money for my M.Phil admission in an institute in pune and i took like three minutes max because the limit was 10k and people started calling names and passing slurs and get this, some even barged in my booth to demand me why i was taking out so much cash! oh and no, don’t get this rudeness mixed with the survival of the fittest theory put forward here, it is just a cultural thing that people here think looking down on others show their own superiority. need i say it’s exactly the opposite? the poor people who actually have to struggle a lot are a lot better then the middle class and the rich people. did you just think of sympathising with the poor? just wait till you read what is coming next, it’s not because they are better by nature, give them money and they will act just like the oppressors that oppressed them. i feel totally frustrated by it and hate being ill treated but, OMG! did i just bad mouth my own country man!! i need to be thrashed, is what will go on in some stupid Indian’s mind who reads this, but then there are some people who are genuinely nice, you have to search the sun to find them though. oh and there is this funny thing going on, i guess many of you angry people already faced it. some indians hate everyone, so they just make fake id’s in social media and add places like Netherlands, USA, UK to appear cool, but then they start talking and bamn! you know right where they coming from. God! i wish i knew how to make all this rudeness go away. the cleanliness and body smell part is much less annoying then this living hell they give me every time i am out of the northeast region. oh but wait, don’t go sympathising the northeastern’s so quickly either, my family is a mixed state family (Arunachal and U.P) so the don’t except me with open arms either. all their hate for the mainland Indian’s come out on all those they consider outsider. but i gotta admit they are still better because 1) they aren’t so very vocal 2) they are cleaner. they just won’t let you into a good friend category. hurts, but i’d anyday be hurt in this way then the other way i mentioned. choosing which hell is livable are currently my only options. but don’t go sympathising me either, i feel sick of being treated as the victim. if only i knew how to fight back without stooping to either of their standards.

    • stuckinindia / Sep 21 2014 2:13 pm

      I have felt the exact way you’ve described. It’s been 18 yrs in this shithole country alone. With me it’s more like staring and grinning nonstop every time I step out of the house. At least you’ve got your parents. Even my parents turned against me.

  49. Smash / Sep 1 2014 3:31 pm

    Indians always fight in groups , i have visited India and i have to say that they do great people like they are inferior to them they have a ego that they can’t let go off and when it comes to rules they don’t seen to care I mean I’ve witnesses people pissing at the side of roads , hitting kids for not giving them respect . The Hindu Indians curse alot even at you in understand Hindi so it’s easy for me to make out what they say most of the time . However there are good Indians aswell . And finally they always seem to be taking about sex and making money or getting drunk

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  51. Ariel / Oct 8 2014 6:11 am

    They talk about sex as their marriages are prearranged – you don’t want an ugly one – and the money is the parents.
    Unfortunately the marrying has an impact – out friends have deformed children so I hope the class thing is worth it – but no – In Australian prearranged marriages are illegal but I still see parents reading books “Marrying the correct person”
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